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I'm thinking of writing a fic that's been haunting me for the past few days now, but the thing is that I need some help to get me started~

Warning: Spoilers for Season 5 Episode 24: Both Side Now



I was wondering, what with this years EPIC finale, if House were to quit Vicodin (also, do you think that's even possible), what other drugs would they probably put him on? Do you think he could ever live a life without drugs? : \

About how long would he probably have to stay in a psychistric hospital? Under what terms would they finally release him?

And does anyone know the medical name for "Truth Serum"? Actually TBH (I feel kind of silly for asking this) is truth serum even real?





Any help would be awesome! *runs away*

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 02:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Sodium penthanol for the truth serum, I believe.

If he's there under his own admission, he can leave when he chooses. You can only commit someone else for a limited period of time, usually 48-72 hours.

Chances are he'd want to stay there, until he figured out why he'd lost touch with reality and was able to get rid of the related symptoms. That's just my opinion, based on the fact that I wouldn't have seen House voluntarily committing himself in canon, up until now.

[identity profile] la-localfreak.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If he's there under his own admission, he can leave when he chooses. You can only commit someone else for a limited period of time, usually 48-72 hours.


Is this a new thing? I don't doubt you on it (I know nothing about the US procedures) but I'm sure in Girl Interrupted that she commits herself but is then not really allowed to leave until they can say that she is safe to be allowed to do so. In the UK, generally, this is what happens even is someone is self-committed, rather than Sectioned- if there is a worry that they may be a danger to themselves or others then they don't get to leave AMA. I might be totally wrong about Girl Interrupted- I've just lent my copy to a friend. I know in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest lots of them were self-commited but still pretty unable to leave, but that's obviously outdated by modern medical standards. *is interested*

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To skeez_queen13: I don't think that House could live without some sort of pain relief unless there's some major medical breakthrough or procedure. As someone who has been addicted to painkillers (on a much milder scale) in the past I would guess that, if they change the medication after House has been clean of Vicodin with a lot of resisting temptation to go back he might be able to find a workable pain-management scheme that relied less on drugs, or at least on less harmful drugs.

I do agree with californiaquail in that I think that one of the big things for House is that he's going to need to find a reason for the hallucinations occuring-a trigger-point, a way to fix things as best he can. House is too tenacious, I think, to give up on a puzzle- even when the puzzle is himself.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. Girl Interrupted is fiction. Much of that movie was incorrect and romanticized for the screen. It also takes place in the 1970's. Lots has changed since then. The main character was admitted by another party (parents) after attempting suicide...correct me if I'm wrong. I haven't watched it since it came out.

Suicide changes things, because it makes you a danger to yourself. If you're a child or college student living at home, that makes it easier for mom and dad to commit you as well.

[identity profile] la-localfreak.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't talking about the film, I was talking about the book which is substantially different from the film and a, at least semi, autobiographical work. However, unlike the book I do have the film on hand and in the scene where Suzannah arrives in the mental hospital she asks "shouldn't my parents sign this" and they tell her she is commiting herself, because she is over eighteen.

Anyway, thanks for the information. I was just curious because I am aware the system is different in the US and spent a good portion of my A-Levels studying psychiatric instituions and representations thereof and was interested in gaining more knowledge of what it's like in the US now, rather than historically.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Even compared to ten years ago, laws in the US are different. I have yet to see an American film, whether it was meant to be based on fact or not, that had completely and accurately portrayed a psychiatric hospital.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
I imagine that real life psychiatrists would push both physical and psychotherapy, under the belief that at least some of House's pain is a result of depression and stress.

Since the show is far from accurate, medically speaking, I imagine whatever solution they come up with will look nothing like this and be fairly magical.

[identity profile] la-localfreak.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking of other pain-management alternatives, although PT might help to a point it can't cure his pain. Acupuncture, Heat, Muscle-pain relievers like ibulive could have some effect and the resident expert (who I've just been grilling over breakfast) suggests a TENS machine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tens_machine which is a device that sends minute electrical currents into the painful area...I think we've got one somewhere.


[identity profile] la-localfreak.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think, considering the site of his pain, he'd need much assitance :P though I can see why that would be a useful plot device and see no reason why you couldn't take some artistic licence with it.

[identity profile] la-localfreak.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Kind of..on a smaller scale. I haven't one in front of me to be 100% (which is actually really annoying as I foolishly turned down a loan of one of my Aunties' as I've strained my back) but basically there's like little pads that stick onto your skin and settings...we have two one goes from 1-5 another from 1-10 and then it makes a kind of clicking noise and then sends little shocks in the area (some of them make a ping! noise as they do). The resident expert told me that they come with a booklet showing you how to place things safely generally just above and either-side of the affected area.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-19 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Well sodium penthanol isn't really truth serum, in the techincal sense. It's more like suggestion serum. It makes the recipient open to suggestion and literally vunerable to brainwashing. I think the politially correct desciption is enhances inhibitions.

If this were real life, the doctors would probably try to get House onto Gabapentin or Tramadol for his pain, only because they are less addictive and less damaging to his liver and kidneys.

But realistically, if he's experiencing constant pain for the rest of his life, any treatment, regardless of how safe it is, will eventually damage his organs, because none of them are designed for long term use.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell Wilson what? With the right amount of drugs in his system, House would probably tell Wilson anything.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Anytime anyone takes matters into their own hands, it backfires horribly. That's like television writing 101.

This has potential for much amusement.

Yes, I'll help you. Sure.

[identity profile] californiaquail.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Friend away!

[identity profile] taiga13.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
About how long would he probably have to stay in a psychistric hospital? Under what terms would they finally release him?
This was discussed in the HHoW Q&A thread. House's doctors would have to approve his release, and if they didn't they legally have the power to make him stay.

[identity profile] la-localfreak.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
love the icon, btw :) very apt!

[identity profile] diysheep.livejournal.com 2009-05-18 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Over at HHOW somone has done some research - it's in the Q and A thread.